We live in Las Vegas. We actively look for visiting couples that want to experience the swinging clubs here for the first time. And one of the first things these visiting couples ask about in reference to the clubs are the single men. It seems they have heard horror stories about pushy single men and the newbies want to stay away from them as much as possible. I then explain the function of single guys in the clubs and the main one, you missed in the article.
For the swinging clubs here in Vegas, single men provide money. The club we like charges 30 bucks a couple and 50 bucks for a single guy. And for the other clubs in town, the price is a lot more expensive. So single guys go a long way towards paying for the clubs and the good times couples have at these clubs.
The second point I want to make is that the single guys in the clubs are not aggressive. They will make their presence known, they have to or they will get no action. But if you tell them to go away, they will. We have never had any real problems with single guys in swing clubs and when we take newbies to the clubs, we expect no problems with single guys.
Finally, the most successful single guys in swing clubs are charming and funny. They add spice to the naughty atmosphere. They flirt and flatter the ladies just the right way. They are there to get laid and being too pushy or aggressive doesn't help their mission.
So enjoy the single guys in the clubs and treat them for what they are; A sex toy that can be thrown away with a voice command.
Great Article! Our first experience was with a single male, and we still invite this great guy for fun. So there are some really great people who happen to be single males out there. We've had experiences where the jerks get rude with a "No Thank You" but I try not to judge every male from those experiences. If the male is respectful and fun, everyone has a great time!
Hi there, Cakes here. Before I got involved with Honey, I was a single male in the Lifestyle, she was a Unicorn, and we all had a great time. We met, had a date, and decided to get into a relationship. But now that Honey and I have been swinging, both in our first relationship as swingers, we can both say that the points of view are vastly different, at least for us.
Swinging to us, now, isn't about just sex, it is about our love for each other, freedom to enjoy different experiences, fun, and to strengthen our relationship. We have a different take on it then when we were singles and because of that, who we want to share our experiences with is a priority.
We certainly won't disrespect a single male who asks us question (quite the opposite in fact, please, ask away), but truthfully, for single males who are just finding out about swinging, we doubt they really know what it means to be a swinger, and that's okay. I have single male friends who want to come to events and parties but again, without the (as it was so eloquently put) meal ticket female, they cannot attend and they understand why. We do what we can to get these very select single males to attend our parties simply because they are great guys and no one can say a bad thing about them. Play time is a different story and they understand that, but come the next day, we are all still friends.
And certainly there are bad apples out there and unfortunately, and single males do get bad raps. But keep in mind, as Jeff stated, there are those fantasies out there for which the single male is a great addition. And never say never.
But the bottom line for most of us, swinger parties are usually invite only. If a single male gets an invite and you don't know that person, give them a break before shutting them down cold. You may not have an interest, but please be polite because when they do become part of a bona fide couple, they'll remember your actions, be it good or bad.
If you do run into a new (AND respectful) single male, be it online or in person, please take the time to talk to them as real human beings, to help them understand what your lifestyle, what your rules are, and why single males are given a bad rap. Help them change the bad rap single males are given.
Well, I've talked to a few couples (and not everyone feels this way), but some just don't get the whole "swingle males" thing. I mean by definition can single male actually be a swinger? Another thing is many just can't differentiate between the "swingle" male and any other non-discriminating horny guy hanging out at any bar at any given hour, anywhere in America that is willing to do any woman, married single, widowed warm or cold. I've been at Parties where there is a room full of married couples and some single guy sitting there gawking or pleasuring himself and it's kind of creepy (not my words, the words of several women that had been playing with few inhibitions until this individual showed up). I think that between couples there is a sense of comradery in that you share a venerability together and some degree of risk relationship wise and there is also the unspoken assurance that discretion will be paramount because they have just as much to loose in the event of being outed as the other COUPLE does. The single male isn't putting as much on the line. When couples swap they share something very intimate and personal with another (their loved ones) and many single men just don't seem to get that. So don't be offended or feel mistreated because many couples choose not to associate with you, they just choose to associate with those that are venturing down a similar road and who might have a better sense of empathy for someone who is sharing something so personal. Fair or not, politically correct, lifestyle correct or not the truth is that if a couple wanted to meet a single guy they could pick them up anywhere, anytime, they are a dime a dozen. Just so the Mrs. doesn't receive any undeserved credit for writing this observation I want to make clear that these are my observation based upon our experiences and the experiences of many that we know in the lifestyle.
As a couple who prefers "solo-males" either single or married (WITH spouse's permission) we couldn't agree more with the above article. KUDOS Jeff! Well said and very well explained!
We have of late experienced the same disrespect from a single female! There are swingle women who do not understand that just because they have a vagina someone is going to play with her.
Our perception of swingle men has most often been, gentlemen who are looking for the same thing we are No Strings Attached SEX! And for us that works perfectly! We often will even have them to just "sleep over" so they aren't waking to an empty bed...and a bit more morning sex is even more satisfying!
Fortunately we are seeing a trend in more groups and parties accepting our choice of play partners. So? Jeff...anytime you make it to Cincy...be sure to look us up!
"would you really prefer a single male to latch on to the very first girl that comes along simply so he can achieve "couple status"? There are those few single males out there who do exactly that. They use a girl who they aren't really interested in as a "meal ticket" to get into couples-only swinger events"....
well, yes....you don't have to latch and it doesnt have to be "the very first girl"....we will respect you and your friend as we asume she is there willingly to participate.....so yes, a"meal ticket" is fine (let's see you get one) - you are a "meal ticket" too...:)
I've been on both sides, as a single male that tries hard to be the exception rather than that leering dude with his johnson in his hand. I've also been half of a couple that has occasionally let a single male play with my other half. As a single male, I try my damndest to be super respectful of the lady and give as much room to the male, its her world but her man can step in at anytime. Knowing this I take direction from the guy and try to let him inform me on how to handle the situation. I know better than to think that I'm gonna take someones lady, no matter how good I tap dat azz. I did think it funny that once me and my other half were letting a single male play and started saying "who's is it?" and when she said it was mine. He got mad and stopped altogether. His loss, but its stuff like that which gives the cool single males a bad rep.
wow i have been waiting for someone to write an article on the single males subject.The article by Jeff is so straight to the point. I'am a single male in Houston,texas and I to get fraustrated by the way some guys act at a party or on the website.Most single guys think they can take a mans wife from them.When thats not going to happen.You as a single male and you must respect the couple first and be glad that the husband is allowing you to share his loveable and i'am sure sexy wife. I make it a habit to be nice to everyone even if the cpl is rude to me.I can understand where they are coming from do to some stupid guys comments.A single male should also be nice and respectful when invited to a party. My rule is if someone is interested in playing they will let you know and if they are not interested we still can have a great time.Patients is everything if you allow a cpl or single female to get to know you then maybe it will lead to good things down the line.Respect and Kindness can go along way.
As a personal friend of Jeff's and a single girl with over 7 years lifestyle experience, I can say that he has given us a well written, and informative article on a subject that he is well informed on. Thanks Jeff! I've met some of the jerk single males out there, and I've met some of the decent guys. Its the jerks that give the decent guys a bad wrap. Guys, one piece of advice from a single female in the lifestyle....take Jeff's advice, and be respectful at all times!